Sakuraba Vs Royce Gracie III se aproxima da realidade

[Fasak ''jj'' 0]

deixa do jeito q esta....

na minha opiniao royce precisa aponsentar ja ...

e viver no limbo do mma

os outros e q precisam se provar ainda...

[Lucifer Krieg 0]

Royce ganhou, mas o chão do saku tá melhor... Royce tem q treinar com o Rickson, e estudar esgrima, pegada das costas e o caralho a 4 de novo...

[wolve 0]

Se eu fosse royce pediria $10.000.000 pra subir no ringue

Se eu fosse o organizador do evento pagava isto p não ver ele lutar.

Apostei no sakuraba e na terceira luta continuo apostando no sakuraba.

Nada contra o Royce ou os gracie. Só acho o Royce muito fraco.

[odracir 0]

nossa da sono ver o roice lutar, só fica amarrando a luta, tem medo da trocaçao e ainda dao a vitória pra ele... deu saku sim.

[Mr BOB 0]

Tem que rolar, pra mim o Saku venceu as duas.

Sem mais

Concordo plenamente!!!!! Torci po Royce mas ele perdeu!!!!

[buda 0]

Se eu fosse royce pediria $10.000.000 pra subir no ringue

hahahahahah essa foi boa,dessa forma o royce ia vender muito caro a derrota.

Mas é obvio que ele vai aceitar essa terceira luta.

O pior é que vai perder novamente.

[Convidado RAMANESS]

Deixa a criançada chorar. O Royce venceu e acabou, não tem jeito.

Esse papo de vaselina foi a piada do século. Duvido que o Sakuraba tenha falado isso. Isso é palhaçada da organização p/ ter mais uma luta.

[Convidado RVMS]

Óbvio que não foi marmelo e óbvio que na hipótese do Royce vencer, os japoneses iriam querer promover uma terceira luta no Japão. Isso era deveras previsível, não sei porque o espanto.

Abraços

é engraçado que só os brasileiros acham que o Royce ganhou, nos outros fóruns quase 99% das pessoas acham que foi o Sakuraba..

Se for assim mesmo (há muito tempo não entro em fóruns estrangeiros) está justificada porque os brasileiros, na sua maioria, entendem mais de VT.

Abraços

[Independente 0]

Dengue, febre e agora vaselina....me poupe japa dos infernos, PERDEU PERDEU, sem choradeira........até pq os 2 usaram a msm vaselina

Royce....Brasil

[Convidado RVMS]

é engraçado que só os brasileiros acham que o Royce ganhou, nos outros fóruns quase 99% das pessoas acham que foi o Sakuraba..

Pelo que estou averiguando aqui, não foi bem assim não. Opinião do Jake Rosen (Sherdog):

12:11 a.m. The creaky legends lock up for a second time. Gracie works his patented push kick to Saku's lead thigh. As Royce rushes in, Saku lands a right hand that drops Royce. Working from an open guard, Royce lands a few flush punches to Saku's face. Saku locks up an ankle, but before he can fall back for anything, Royce discourages him with some up-kicks.

12:12 a.m. Gracie butt-scoots and lands several kicks to Saku's legs. Hapa eggs on boos from fans, inciting them to "tell them how you feel" in the middle of the fight. What a complete prostitution of the sport. I can only hope he mistakes his Gatorade Cool Blue with some antifreeze.

12:14 a.m. A familiar sight: Saku locks up a standing Kimura on Royce.

12:15 a.m. Round one ends. A very, very even contest. Royce was dropped, but he landed far more strikes. A 9-9 round is impossible without a point deduction, but this is what one would look like. Forced to score 10-9, you have to acknowledge Saku clocking him.

12:18 a.m. Midway through round two and we have yet to hear from DJ Hapa. In Saku's corner, Chute Boxe captain Rudimar Fedrigo absent-mindedly picks a bloody tooth off of his jacket. Either that, or my subconscious is just trying to cope.

12:21 a.m. Round two ends. Very little action with lots of tie-ups. Royce threw several knees to Saku's thighs; a Chute Boxe-inspired clinch was a stalemate, with Royce landing body shots to counter knees. Saku is completely disinterested in engaging. 10-9 Gracie, but nothing to be proud of.

12:27 a.m. Fight's over. Round three was a snooze, save for Gracie trying a Kimura from his guard. Going by Sherdog.com rules, which play a little like Calvinball, I'd have deducted a point from each man in each round for passivity and declare it a draw. Mario Yamasaki was far too lenient in not breaking up their repeated clinch.

Adhering to CSAC mandates, I give it to Gracie 29-28 for at least trying to be aggressive … but it's specious to say anyone "won" that fight.

Opinião do Josh Gross (Sherdog):

LOS ANGELES, June 2 -- Outside of Kazushi Sakuraba (Pictures), there are few people that could have related better to Royce Gracie (Pictures) on the first of May, 2000 than one of the men sitting in the slender Brazilian's corner.

"I know how difficult it is to fight for so long," said Helio Gracie, the patriarch of the fighting family known for his hours-long no-rules fights. "The fact that they fought for an hour and a half makes me admire both of them."

Saturday night, some seven years after Royce first lost to Sakuraba in Tokyo, the MMA legends returned to the ring at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum hoping to rekindle whatever magic they had left in front of what promoter FEG said was 54,000 admirers.

Helio, now in his mid-90s, watched again from his son's corner, though this time he did not have to suffer through the decision of whether or not to throw in the towel.

After three relatively slow-paced rounds -- equivalent to just one of the six 15-minute rounds they shared during their initial encounter -- Gracie, 40, out-pointed a fight-worn Sakuraba.

While there wasn't a 90-minute clash and the stakes weren't as high as when the two met in the quarterfinals of PRIDE's first Grand Prix tournament, "Gracie versus Sakuraba" still meant something to longtime followers of the sport, who clearly turned out tonight for no other reason than to support the veterans.

Unfortunately, very little happened during a bout that played out in the chilly Southern Californian night.

Fighting for the first time outside of Japan, Sakuraba (21-10-1, 2 NC) started with a left hook that knocked Gracie off balance. Sakuraba followed Royce down to the canvas, but was unable inflict any damage on a fighter that to this day has one of the best defensive guards in the sport.

Sakuraba then stood above Gracie (14-3-3), who looked fit at 188 pounds, and had his legs attacked by pushing kicks directed at the knees. Anyone that watched Sakuraba fight before tonight expected him at some point to vault into the air and throw fists at Gracie's head, but the 38-year-old showman seemed disinterested in pursuing that type of fight.

In the second, Sakuraba connected with knees in the Thai clinch, a trick he may have picked up while training recently with the Chute Boxe Academy. Yet he failed to deliver a damaging and Gracie was fine heading into the third.

From ringside, it seemed clear that Sakuraba would need to finish the fight in order to have a chance at winning, and the judges' scorecards reflected that. Cecil Peoples and Richard Bertrand notched the first two rounds in Gracie's column, while Nelson Hamilton had it even heading into the third and final period.

A disappointing last five minutes from both men resulted in the bout going to the judges, who saw it for the Brazilian.

Any judgment, especially one Royce's favor, was better than quitting on the stool, which he did in 2000 after no longer being able to fight on an injured leg.

Sakuraba's first performance in front of American fans showcased a wilted fighter, whose entertainment value now resides more in our memories than his improvisations in the ring.

Even at one fight apiece, a rubber match seems plausible, though it's unlikely that a North American audience, to which FEG joined Dream Stage Entertainment in showing it had little idea how to court, would buy a third fight. If Sakuraba and Gracie are to find closure, it'll have to be in Japan.

Opinião do Ricardo Mendoza (mmaweekly):

The most anticipated fight of the night was the rematch between Royce Gracie and Kazushi Sakuraba, who waged a classic ninety-minute war seven years ago. Both fighters received a huge reaction from the crowd as they made their way to the ring. The match would go the distance, but it wasn’t as compelling as the first time they met. Both fighters were cautious throughout the fight round. Neither imposed their will on the other, although Gracie later commented, “The fight went exactly as we planned.”

The majority of the fight played out with both fighters clinched along the ropes, waiting for the other to make a mistake that neither fighter would end up making. In the end, Gracie was the aggressor throughout the majority of the fight, and that swayed the judges in his favor. Royce won the fight by unanimous decision with scores of 30-27, 29-28, 29-28.

Sobre a vaselina, diz Zach Anold (FightOpinio):

Monday lowlights: A pathetic display by K-1 and the Japanese mediaJune 3rd, 2007

By Zach Arnold

K1 Dynamite Sucked

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The MySpace page of the K-1 Dynamite DJ?

I would copy some text from the following Japanese articles, but apparently WP 2.2 doesn’t support the Japanese text unlike past versions of WP.

How the Japanese media covered the K-1 Dynamite show (Part II): Part I discussed how Sports Navigator spoke about the show in glowing terms in terms of the ‘positive momentum’ coming out of the event. Sankei Sports has one main story about the show, which is Kazushi Sakuraba’s poor showing against Royce Gracie. Sadaharu Tanigawa is stated to be interested in booking Royce/Sakuraba III in the rubber match. The article claimed that in Japan, vaseline is prohibited in usage whereas in America it’s a requirement. In other words, this was excuse-making by the media for Sakuraba (similar to the vain of what happened with Yoshihiro Akiyama - which the paper brought up).

Nikkan Sports focused on Sakuraba vs. Royce, talking about this fight being Sakuraba’s American debut. The paper also brought up the issue of vaseline (so this is starting to sound like a K-1 talking point). The publication also mentioned the battery of ‘obstinate’ medical tests that Sakuraba had to undergo before the fight, plus the bad traffic in transporting fighters to the Coliseum before the show. NS further claimed that despite the fans booing the fight and the live DJ, Sakuraba showed his popularity in the States with his Stars-and-Stripes mask.

Daily Sports had an article on the Sakuraba/Royce fight and they brought up, you guessed it, the vaseline excuse. Plus, the article said that the three 5-minute rounds was too short for any conclusion to be made in the Royce/Sakuraba fight because of their 90-minute marathon match in 2000. The paper said a rubber match would be definitely booked.

Sports Nippon also had an article on Royce/Sakuraba and, surprise, vaseline became the main topic. It was put in context with the Yoshihiro Akiyama ‘cream’ scandal.

Yomiuri Hochi (Yomiuri Shimbun) also had an article on Royce/Sakuraba and vaseline took center stage. Plus, Sakuraba appealed for a no-time limit rubber match against Royce in Japan.

In the end, K-1 and Tanigawa tried to shift the heat onto the California SAC for Sakuraba’s loss based on the differences between HERO’s rules and the Unified rules. Plus, not one Japanese media outlet raised an eyebrow or questioned the 54,000 fan attendance claim by K-1. Funny how that works.

So, let’s break down the Japanese logic here. Kazushi Sakuraba and Yoshihiro Akiyama had a match on NYE that was deemed controversial because Akiyama used Oil of Olay (skin cream) to make himself slippery. Akiyama was branded a cheater and Sakuraba was branded as a victim in the scandal. Therefore, because the CSAC rules state that fighters should have vaseline on to prevent cuts during fights, Sakuraba was a victim because the vaseline (mixed with sweat) made his opponent slippery.

Essa é a opinião dos especialistas internacionais, quanto aos fóruns, fatalmente existiram opiniões díspares, primeiro pelas preferências e paixões de cada um e segundo porque a luta realmente foi equilibrada.

Abraços

[eu-- 0]

Numa luta fraca, o Royce foi mais agressivo e procurou mais o combate. Portanto, resultado justo.

Quanto a uma nova luta, não acrescentaria nada na minha opinião. Tanto um como o outro não têm nada a provar a ninguém. Já mostraram o quanto são homens várias vezes e são exemplos a seguir.

Seria bom retirarem-se agora.

Abraço

[Bucho de Lama 0]

Concordo com o colega "eu--", só acho que eles poderiam continuar lutando com outros coroas, até porque eles ainda atraem muita mídia, e sempre existe interesse em assistir as lutas deles.

[Jorginic 0]

Se eu fosse o Royce, me aposentaria... Ele não precisa mais provar nada pra ninguém...

[Convidado RAMANESS]

Tá 1 X 1, tá bom demais.

O ideal seria que Royce e Saku se aposentassem logo de uma vez. Já fizeram a parte deles.

[Lennon 0]

depois do garfo tem q ter terceira mesmo